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Draw It Again (Tiger vs Dog) by PagodaComics Draw It Again (Tiger vs Dog) by PagodaComics
Hah, I'm a last minute contester... ^^;

Original: [link]
Remake: [link]

First of all, my gallery is quite a fresh one - one year old.
So it wasn't much space for me to show off too much, hehe.

What I wished to accomplish anyway?
To show that I became better in composition, choosing perspective and angles, placing my characters and displaying action and dynamism.
I know it's less "pretty" in a way, but I didn't aim for polished art for this scene.

I also wanted to use the same media, same style - I think it is just fair.

EDIT
Woah, I've got in the semi-finals - totally surprised! *__*
Especially because I do realize - as I've said - my 2nd pict is less refined and pretty. This makes me EXTRA happy that people still could see my point and that are more in a pict than being shiney and polished. I have to admit, I was even a bit disapointed that many picts I liked didn't make it in there. Too bad. = (
I had interesting conversations with people because of this contest about art, improvement and how people think so many times, using digital tools over traditional is an improvement on its own, or changing style (like from simplified to realistic) is as well. When it is really not. And how very often the "after" images still doesn't show improvement on basic art skills like anatomy, lighting, composition ect.
Anyway, I was happy to talk to these people and share these views, it was really refreshing! :glomp:
I wanted to do this meme for ages already but I'm glad for this contest to finally kicked me to do so. :D
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:iconlukequietus:
LukeQuietus Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Both are awesome! I almost prefer the older one. It's looser style makes it really stand out. It's like the childhood flashback from Samurai Jack (which I love). 

The newer one is "tighter". The technique is refined but with that some of the personality is lost...just some. I'm off to look through your gallery...
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:iconpagodacomics:
PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2013  Student General Artist
I get what you mean: for look and brush-technique I also prefer the older one, it was just the composition and the dynamic feeling what i wanted to achieve ,and couldn't for the first time, that I think I did better on the 2nd. But ultimately I would like to have the dynamic feel AND the looseness too. ^^
(Ah, yeah I really like it too ^^)
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Zagoner Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2012
I'm really shocked and surprised you didn't get into the top ten. I believe you should have to be honest. I think there is a great difference, Such as your piece re done gives the feeling of more flow and movement in my own opinion. I love both pieces and you have a really nice unique style :D Keep up the amazing work.
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:iconpagodacomics:
PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2012  Student General Artist
Aw, haha thank you for your flattering words! ^///^
But, nah, I'm honestly happy already to get into the semi-finals, it was such a pleasent surprise. Not because I didn't think it was that good, I do think I made a good, visible progress, but because the 2nd one is less pretty-looking, I expected people to overlook other aspects. So I was happy that many recognized that! :3
Thank you again, I will do my best! :D
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EvitagenEm Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012
The first piece does look pretty but it also looks stiff. The second piece looks looks more like it's actually moving and there's more emotion into it. I really think you should win this =]
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:iconpagodacomics:
PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2012  Student General Artist
Thank you veyr much, 'Im glad you see it - and yes, YES, I think too, that I captured their wildness with the 2nd more, I'm glad you pointed it out! :lol:
Awww, haha it's really nice of you saying that, but I don't think I should win, I think the finalyst one should be still more... how to say "through-out" with it. My pict only shows one aspect: composition. Not that it is a little thing but I think finalists should be someone who gives a strikingly big change as a whole or sth. =)
I'm already glad I got in the semi-finals - especially because I could talk to so many interesting people this way! :glomp:
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:icondscapades:
Dscapades Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i like the first one more to be honest...
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:iconpagodacomics:
PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012  Student General Artist
I see why, it is more "pretty" with the brush strokes. But as action scene I don't think it is that effective and THAT was my purpose this time. :)
But, of course, you could be on different opinion about that as well, haha.
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Foxfire96 Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Congratulations on being a semi-finalist; I'm glad you were chosen.:) I like both of the two pieces, but there is no denying the improvement. I adore your style.
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:iconpagodacomics:
PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012  Student General Artist
Thank you! I'm really glad you can see my point with the 2nd piece, despite it being the less "pretty" one. Really, it makes me happy! :)
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LadyBelva Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The before is really more beautiful and "traditional" imho
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PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012  Student General Artist
Haha, yeah i can't deny that. :D
But I didn't want this pict to be pretty, but to be a good, effective action scene and I belive for that purpose the 2nd piece works better.
However my ultimate goal is to combine the two: make it somewhat "prettier" and make it dynamic as well. =)
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Heiros Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2012
I'm glad the improvement you made in your work was recognized enough to be put as a semi-finalist in the contest. Really, from the compositions you've shown me thus far, really have been a great improvement to your work overall to bring out more livelyness and feel, and it's great that it shows through to others even in a contest. Pretty much a good sign of confirmation for you that you're on the right track, huh? :3
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:iconpagodacomics:
PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012  Student General Artist
Haha, yeah I was completely surprised to get in there.. :blushes:
You know, it wasn't anything shiney that usually gets the attention - if anything it was kinda even less "pretty" than the 1st one. XD;
So I was both surprised and happy that they still could see my point in this meme anyway! ='D
YESSSH~! ^o^
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KarinaMacGill Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Gratulálok! :D
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:iconpagodacomics:
PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012  Student General Artist
Kösziii!
Eléggé meglepődtem, őszintén szólva. Hisz a 2. verzió nemhogy szebb lenne, még inkább kevésbé "csini". Nem gondoltam volna, hogy meglátják benne a pozitívumot ennek ellenére (ami a kompozíció). De örülök, hogy igen. =)
És jó, hogy kaptam 3 havi előfizetést! :D
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KarinaMacGill Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Én is, hogy őszinte legyek! Azt hittem csak "csini" digitális festmények fognak nyerni, jó látni, hogy a zsűrinek helyén volt az esze. :)

Gratula az előfizetéshez is! :D
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:iconpagodacomics:
PagodaComics Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Student General Artist
Hát, ezért nem mindegyikkel értettem egyet mégsem, de azért tényleg sok volt, ahol tényleg látszott a fejlődés és nem csak stílust váltottak.

Köszi, örültem is neki, mert bejön, de annyira nem hogy fizessek is érte. :D
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:iconproffor:
Proffor Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
OMG! You're a semi-finalist! YAY!
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:iconpagodacomics:
PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012  Student General Artist
Haha, yeah, I was just as surprised - my piece isn't really shiney or pretty so it could have been easily ignored, and I expected that. So I was REALLY surprised that the judges recognized the aspect I was aiming for. I'm happy for it. :3
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:iconproffor:
Proffor Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
<3
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:iconkalabadi-hallaj:
kalabadi-hallaj Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2012  Professional General Artist
both are frickin awesome i can't decide
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:iconpagodacomics:
PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012  Student General Artist
Haha, thanks! :D
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:iconkalabadi-hallaj:
kalabadi-hallaj Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012  Professional General Artist
your welcome
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loquaces Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012
Wow, your technique looks much more refined in the new one! But I also like the thick brush strokes of the old one as well, they remind me of calligraphy :) I can't decide, I really like both... Congrats for getting into the semifinal!
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PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012  Student General Artist
Thank you very much!
To be honest I used different paper, different type of markers on the pieces and the size was also different. Since the 1st was half of the size as the 2nd, I could make all the bold strokes easily and the paper "drinked in" the ink better thus it gave a watery feel. And since with the 2nd I made quick strokes it gives a more dry feel than the previous one.
I have to admit, I like the look of the 1st more, too. But not serving the action purpose that good.
I'm going to experiment more with the papers and markers to figure how to combine the two feel of the pict to achieve a fully satisfying way of displaying such scenes. :)
But for now I'm glad for the improvement about composition and dynamism. ^^
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:iconloquaces:
loquaces Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012
I agree, the action is much better in the 2nd one! It's cool to learn how you improve your art technique, thanks for explaining :D
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:iconpagodacomics:
PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2012  Student General Artist
:)
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:iconlevianee:
Levianee Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Congratulations on semi-final! :D
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:iconpagodacomics:
PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012  Student General Artist
Thank you, same goes to you! ^^
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:iconfurrama:
Furrama Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012   Digital Artist
Just saw you on the semifinalist page, grats!
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:iconpagodacomics:
PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012  Student General Artist
Thanks a lot! :lol:
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:iconcobayanigiri:
cobayanigiri Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2012  Hobbyist
Én is ugyanezt gondolom! Főleg, ha képregény panelként nézném, a kompozíció az újon mindenképp jobban vinné tovább a tekintetet:)
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:iconpagodacomics:
PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2012  Student General Artist
Igen-igen, határozottan képregényes szemmel kell nézni! :lol:
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:iconfurrama:
Furrama Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012   Digital Artist
Hmmm. I like the brushwork on the first one much more, but the newer one has much better flow and movement.
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:iconpagodacomics:
PagodaComics Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2012  Student General Artist
Uhm, yeah I get what you mean by the previous way with brush, and I guess I agree. Though I didn't want it to be too "pretty" or smooth, i still like more how the previous was not as dry and had smoother gradients, especially the lighter grey parts.
But I'm glad you agree on the main thing about composition, it was bigger issue for me now. :)
Thanks for the feedback. ^^
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